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zelenyikot:
Фильм хороший, но... мог быть лучше. Отличная картинка, игра актеров. Сюжет в нескольких местах упрощен по сравнению с книгой, но не настолько, чтобы это сильно мешало. Основной недостаток — слабый сценарий, в рамках которого не удалось показать как следует отношение героя к ситуации. В книге ... одна из вещей, которые подкупают и захватывают, это как герой постоянно делает что-то, даже зная заранее, что это все равно не решит его проблему.
zelenyikot:
В прокат вышел фильм «Марсианин» в стиле робинзонады XXI века. Фильм безусловно надо видеть: переживать за героя, смеяться над жизнерадостностью человека в безвыходной ситуации, ...
...по сюжету сходится почти все, за редким исключением. Отличие в повествовании. Книга — это учебник по выживанию на другой планете [внимание, учебник недостоверный, не пытайтесь повторить это дома на Марсе]. Фильм — это видеодневник двухдневного турпохода. За исключением начала, в фильме нет и следа того смакования инженерного процесса, с выявлением проблемы, анализом доступных средств, практикой «фиксит сингс», которыми полна книга. Этим она многих зацепила, а некоторых и покорила, но фильм совсем про другое.
& Mark Watney: It is 06:53 on Sol 19... and I’m alive. Obviously.
& Mark Watney: I have no way to contact NASA. And even if I could, it’s gonna be four years... until a manned mission can reach me. And I’m in a Hab designed to last 31 days. If the oxygenator breaks, I’m gonna suffocate. If the water reclaimer breaks, I’ll die of thirst. If the Hab breaches, I’m just gonna, kind of... implode. And if by some miracle, none of that happens... eventually I’m gonna run out of food. So... yeah. Yeah.
& Mark Watney: For redundancy, they sent 68 sols worth of food. That’s for 6 people. So for just me, that’s gonna last 300 sols... which I figure I can stretch to 400 if I ration. So I got to figure out a way to grow three years’ worth of food here. On a planet where nothing grows. Luckily... I’m a botanist. Mars will come to fear my botany powers!
& Mark Watney: If I run the hydrazine over an iridium catalyst, it’ll separate into N2 and H2. And then if I just direct the hydrogen into a small area... and burn it. Luckily, in the history of humanity... nothing bad has ever happened from lighting hydrogen on fire.
& Vincent: What the hell is he thinking right now?..
Mark Watney: I’m definitely gonna die up here... if I have to listen to any more god-awful disco music. My God, Commander Lewis, couldn’t you have packed anything from this century?
& Mark Watney: .... So, in the face of overwhelming odds, I’m left with only one option. I’m gonna have to science the shit out of this.
& Mark Watney: So I can make an alphabet. It can’t be our alphabet. 26 characters plus a question card into 360 gives us 13 degrees of arc. That’s way too narrow. I’d never know what the camera was pointing at... Ooh. Hexadecimals! Hexadecimals to the rescue.
& Mark Watney: The coolest one, though, the coolest one I got... was from University of Chicago, my alma mater. They say that once you grow crops somewhere... you’ve officially colonized it. So, technically... I colonized Mars. In your face, Neil Armstrong.
& Mitch: Do you believe in God, Vincent?
Vincent: Yeah. Yeah, my father was a Hindu, my mother’s a Baptist, so, yeah... I believe in several.
& Melissa Lewis: Can you disable it?
Johanssen: Hermes has four redundant flight computers... each connected to three redundant comm systems. We can’t shut down the comms because we’d lose telemetry and guidance. And we can’t shut down the computers because we need to run the ship. I’d have to disable remote override on each system. It’s part of the OS, I’d have to jump over the code.
Martinez: Okay, but, like, in English, what would that mean?
Johanssen: I can do it.
& Mark Watney: I’ve been thinking about laws on Mars. There’s an international treaty saying no country can lay claim... to anything that’s not on Earth. And by another treaty, if you’re not in any country’s territory... maritime law applies. So Mars is international waters. Now, NASA is an American non-military organization. It owns the Hab. But the second I walk outside, I’m in international waters. So here’s the cool part. I’m about to leave for the Schiaparelli Crater... where I’m gonna commandeer the Ares 4 lander. Nobody explicitly gave me permission to do this... and they can’t until I’m on board the Ares 4. So that means I’m gonna be taking a craft over... in international waters without permission. Which, by definition, makes me a pirate. Mark Watney, Space Pirate.
& Mark Watney: Everywhere I go, I’m the first. It’s a strange feeling. Step outside the Rover... first guy to be there. Climb that hill, first guy to do that.
& Mark Watney: Four and a half billion years... nobody here. And now, me.
& Mark Watney: I’m the first person to be alone on an entire planet.
& Mark Watney: They just keep repeating... «Go faster than any man in the history of space travel.» Like that’s a good thing. Like it’ll distract me from how insane their plan is. Yeah, I get to go faster than any man in the history of space travel... because you are launching me in a convertible. Actually it’s worse than that because I won’t even be able to control the thing. And by the way, physicists, when describing things like acceleration... do not use the word «fast.» So they’re only doing that in the hopes that I won’t raise any objections... to this lunacy. Because I like the way «fastest man in the history of space travel» sounds. I do like the way it sounds. I mean, I like it a lot. I’m not gonna tell them that.
& Annie: If something goes wrong, what can Mission Control do?
Vincent: Not a damn thing. It’s all happening 12 light-minutes away... which means it takes 24 minutes for them to get the answer to any question they ask. The whole launch is 12 minutes... so they’re on their own.
& Mark Watney: How big a problem?
Melissa Lewis: 42 meters a second.
Mark Watney: Well... shit.
& Melissa Lewis: I can’t see you having any control if you did that. You’d be eyeballing the intercept using a thrust vector you can barely control.
Mark Watney: Yes, those are all very good points. But consider this. I’d get to fly around like Iron Man. Commander... let’s go Iron Man.
& Mark Watney: This is space. It does not cooperate. At some point, everything is going to go south on you. Everything is going to go south and you’re going to say, «This is it. This is how I end.» Now, you can either accept that... or you can get to work. That’s all it is. You just begin. You do the math. You solve one problem... then you solve the next one. And then the next. And if you solve enough problems, you get to come home.
All right, questions?
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zelenyikot: Разбор "Марсианина": Марс, наука, политика
Марсzelenyikot: Разбор "Марсианина": техника
Первое художественное допущение и первое противоречие с реальным Марсом - это песчаная буря, из-за которой и начинается одиночное приключение Марка Уотни. Да, это сознательная выдумка автора книги Энди Вейера - таких бурь на Марсе не может быть физически - атмосфера слишком разреженная, поэтому ветер может лишь поднять тонкую сухую пыль. .......
...а сегодня рассмотрим техническую сторону вопроса. Это самая благодатная тема для комментариев, поиска ляпов и неточностей, поскольку именно техника являлась главным фетишем Энди Вейера - автора книги. .......
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